March 25, 2009
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Thoughts from Psych of Gender
So, as many of you know, I take a Gender course at my college. Well, in class yesterday we watched two YouTube videos that I haven't been able to get off my mind. Today in math class, I wrote the long reflection that's written here (underneath the YouTube videos). These videos are the exact ones we watched in class. We unfortunately didn't talk about them (boy would I have talked) because we ran out of time. But yeah. Here ya go.

Description of video one: Scientists now believe that there is a physiological basis for homosexuality, although this is not entirely genetic, as these twin studies show.
Description of video two: Most people are able to guess an individual's sexual orientation with a surprising degree of accuracy by observing his/her mannerisms, speech patterns and general masculinity or femininity, even when the individual in question is at a very young age.
**I just want to note that the following is a collection of rough ideas, not well researched or otherwise documented points. I'm really doing little more than thinking out loud, or allowing you a glimpse into my written journal**The reason I have no "gaydar" is predominantly because I refuse to give stereotypes any credibility. The last guy I dated [when this would still be considered a heterosexual pairing] was extremely feminine, yet he defined himself as 100% heterosexual -- and while society has been challenging him on that for years now (and even while I would like to challenge him on that myself at times), if that is how he identifies than who are we to say he is otherwise? In the same vein, I know extremely "masculine" homosexual men. This leads me to believe that there is no such thing as "stereotypically gay" so much as there are only gender stereotypes and those who contradict them. In the case of the child Adam, who is what we would consider stereotypically female, we don't respond to this by labeling him transgender (literally "across" or "beyond" gender), we respond by labeling it as "gay". Furthermore, we assume he will grow up to be homosexual in orientation and remain male in gender identity (mooshpitmatt on Xanga is an example of the exact opposite, identifying as transgender yet heterosexual as he is biologically male and likes females; correct me if I'm wrong, Matt).
While the woman interviewing Adam does, admittedly, describe his behavior as "childhood gender nonconformity" she also follows that description with stating that "research shows that children with extreme gender nonconformity usually grow up to be gay." This seems like a popular conclusion to draw, but for people like myself it is hard not to wonder where in the grand scheme of things causality lies. Are gender non-conformity and homosexuality really that closely linked? Is it really homosexuality if he never fully identified as male or as a boy even from his earliest years? Do children not grow up being taught exactly what the woman here is saying; that if they are exhibiting such distinctly "opposite sex" behavior than they must be gay?
Now, I don't want for this to sound like I am blaming society for making a person gay for one second; I don't believe that it is nurture (or at least not nurture alone) that "causes" homosexuality, but I do think that society's ignorance of gender deviancy and tunnel vision on sex and sexuality really may play a part in this on some level. Saying that because he is a feminine boy he will be gay plays into the argument for complimentarity; and, while not readily accepted because it is still homosexual, it is still accepted because it presupposes that for every "feminine" individual there must be a "masculine" individual there to compliment them. Society doesn't do the smallest job trying to hide that it feels this way, and so, I have to wonder... do gender deviant children wind up identifying as homosexual later in life because they have been being told they are homosexual (maybe not explicitly, but implicitly) their entire childhood? I mean, maybe the two really go hand-in-hand and that childhood gender deviancy does directly correlate to homosexuality. But excuse me for thinking that is... "too simple."
When we say a man is "stereotypically" gay, we are almost always referring to effeminacy (male femininity); we never say "wow that was really gay" to two men kissing, more often we say "that was really gay" about a man speaking with his hands while wearing pink. Similarly, we don't read women as gay unless they are in some way masculine: they either present masculine or have masculine mannerisms or have a very deep voice or short hair. It is the individual's inability to adhere to gender stereotypes that has them labeled "gay" and in actuality has *nothing* to do with their orientation. Most statements speaking of one's homosexuality (most things that would have you label a person "gay" -- or even straight) have nothing to do with their sexuality and everything to do with how well they adhere to the gender stereotypes for their gender. In my experience in the GLBT (LGBTQQIA?) community itself, even queer folks can't get over the reality that some "stereotypically gay" (ie. marginally gender deviant) folks are actually heterosexual. Why is this.
It is masculinity and femininity that are the stereotypes, not homosexuality and heterosexuality. We understand the latter group to be more of a... life foundation, and the lives built off these orientations are understood to be varied and diverse with nothing in common between them except for, well, the gender of interest. (We have no "straight" stereotype, do we? If there is no "straight" stereotype, how can there be a "gay" stereotype?) Femininity and masculinity, however, as stereotypes cannot be so "varied and diverse" else they would not be stereotypes; stereotypes are, by definition, fixed and rigid perceptions -- in this case, gender stereotypes are fixed and rigid (and pervasive; especially to those who believe there is a biological foundation to them).
Further reading you can do on how masculinity and femininity are stereotypes can be found here.
Comments (8)
The last paragraph blew my mind... I read it to my sister and it blew hers too. I've never really thought of masculinity and femininity as stereotypes before. You've definitely given me some food for thought.
@MakinzyKrysteen - Masculinity and femininity are very much stereotypes. If you're interested in learning more about it I included a link in my blog to some additional information. The fact that masculinity and femininity are stereotypes is pretty much the main lesson that any gender psychology class or class on feminist theory would want you to walk away really hammered into your head. Glad you liked the post!
@xthread - I actually very interested... I'm taking a human sexuality course next semester as a part of my course work. I will definitely check out the link.
This was incredibly interesting. And reading it, I feel and urge to say "Thank you," for pointing out things I wish so many others understood. I think I always feel that way when I read your posts.
this is why we need the trans-blog =)
I can really relate to some of your points. I look like a straight female, but my sexuality is non-straight. Because of that, I often feel uncomfortable in queer settings. I feel out of place at pride parades, gay bars, etc. because people assume I'm straight and that I am just there to support/hang out with my gay friends who are there with me (they know I'm non-straight). Over the past year or so, I keep thinking I should drastically cut my hair, start sitting more "masculine"-like, or walk/talk more like a guy - but I am frustrated with where that train of thought goes. That would not be me, and I would be unhappy emulating something other than who I am. Why should I change who I am to feel more accepted? Shouldn't the world change their expections of acceptations? (of course, we don't live in an ideal world ... *sigh*)
It bothers me (even in these youtube videos) that people automatically assumed that a more effemininate (another word I hate) guy is gay. Not only does it show how limited the straight community's knowledge of the queer community actually is, but it shows how far the queer community still needs to travel in order to break down stereotypes that damage their own system. A person should be themselves and should not be automatically labeled as one thing or another thing.
It frustrates me to no end that people assume a person is either masculine or feminine. Why are there only two types? Can we really be on a planet that has only two types of gender? REALLY??? In other animals, we see creatures that can switch genders if they need to (clownfish), are both genders at once, or do not have a gender at all. Why are the animals able to adapt and accept as they need, but us animals that are capable of higher reasoning are stuck with our heads in the sand? Why are people unable to accept the "other"?
I have a friend who decided that there should be another gender pronoun. It's ayr, which is like the he or she prounouns. It also doubles as the "him" or "her" replacement. I refer to God (which I think will henceforth be referred to as Fate in my writing) as Ayr, because I think God is so much more than male or female. Ayr is both. Ayr is neither. Fate just IS. But yes, it is not the sexual stereotypes that need to be evaluated and changed (well, okay, some of them do), but the "inity" stereotypes that should be.
I do, however, think there is such a thing as gaydar. Not that a person can tell if a person is gay based on how stereotypically homosexual a person looks, but just because there is some awareness. Not always, but often there is just a "I know because I know" type feeling. I don't know if I'm explaining this very well, but I think one gay person can spot another gay person, and not just because of looks (I hope this makes sense).
@Kitzress - Don't change who you are so that you appear more queer... Is it worth it to you to change yourself so society stops perceiving you as heteronormative? You should not have to change. Society needs to change. It's funny you mention an "ideal world" where society were different in this regard, because I have been working on a poem titled "Ideal world" that speaks of this very thing. Fancy that.
It is not the straight community alone that misunderstands the queer community, it is both communities together (though very rarely the T community) because not all gay folks are forced to think in context of the lines between (and limits of) gender and sexual orientation. Many are ignorant to the fact that there are lines between the two and that the two function independently. Many homosexuals hold the same assumptions and stereotypes that heterosexuals hold. You are very right that no one should automatically be labeled as one thing or another. Unfortunately, heterosexual is the "default" and the only way you are visably queer is to out out with a same-sex partner frequently, or challenge gender stereotypes. It's fucked up.
We have an infiniate range of gender identies, but society only recognizes the two that correspond with the two sexes. It's my hope that the professionals present and childbirth will stop performing surgeries to "normalize" the 1 in 100 babies that are in some way intersex. The larger their community grows, the more and more strained gender is going to be. The box will be broken, hopefully. Between intersex folk and transgenders and transsexuals, we have a lot of people crying out for recognition in a society that majorly ignores them.
Other thoughts:
I like what you said about animals.
I have heard of a ton of gender-neutral pronouns but never "ayr". I actually like that one. Also, I think of God and Fate the same way. So much bigger than masculine or feminine. Both/neither, simultaneously. Outside out definitions entirely.
I hear you on gaydar.
Love the vidoes. I think you are born with your sexual orientation, sometimes you do not realize it, but you are. That is why they noticed this in such young kids.
That last paragraph was amazing.
And also, I am suck of the word straight. What the heck, if your not heterosexual, your round?
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